Muslim prayers insult Jews and Christians

I have constantly asked muslims do they pray for the infidel. I constantly get the answer NO. when i ask the same muslims do they pray for their family they say Yes. We see muslim doctrine saying such things as:
Surah 48:29 "be severe against dibelievers (non-muslims/ polythiests) yet are merciful among themselves" (muslims)/ (my words)/...
Yet Christians are told to love thy enemy bless those who curse you. We dont root ourselves in self righteousness and personal vengance. ...(which seems more like people who trust in G-d?)
Matt.5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
1 John 4:7-8 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and everyone that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
All of Torah is summed up in two classes of laws. Those pertaining to you in your relationship with G-D and those pertaining to you and your relationship with others. If "islam" can't even embrace peace on what authority do they speak of G-d?
1 Cor.13:8 Charity (love) never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away./ Peace (Shalom)to those who embrace it..... _______MUSLIM PRAYERS_______
So, what do Muslims actually pray for? The only supplication in the rak’a is the recitation of Al-Fatihah (Surah 1 of the Quran). This is what they pray for:
Guide us to the straight path, the path of those whom You have favored,

Not of those who have incurred your wrath, nor of those who have gone astray.

The phrase ‘those who have incurred your wrath” comes from Surah 2:61 which says,

Shame and misery were stamped upon [the Israelites] and they incurred the wrath of Allah; because they disbelieved Allah’s signs and slew His prophets unjustly; because they were rebels and transgressors.

The phrase “those who have gone astray” comes from Surah 4:44 which says,
Consider those to whom a portion of the Scriptures was given [i.e., Christians]. They purchase error for themselves and wish to see you go astray.............

The Friday prayer is even more offensive to Jews and Christians, as it requires not only two recitations of Al-Fatihah, but also Surah 62 – The Friday Congregation – and Surah 63 – The Hypocrites. Surah 62 specifically condemns Gentiles as being "in gross error," and Jews are compared with "a donkey laden with books." Surah 63 condemns "hypocrites," those who have renounced their Muslim faith. "They are the enemy. Guard yourself against them." 

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This is a short version (review) of the blog Monothiestic Elohim which documents all these points and MORE.

 Not a single word that is translated as G-d relates to the physical flesh. To speak of G-D is to speak of a Spiritual authority. Yeshua (Jesus) like all men have both a physical body and a Spiritual body. To mention his physical being is Not to mention The Almighty G-D but rather a Temple Of G-D or ("son of man") To mention his Spiritual auth...ority (anointing of the Father) you can apply Two of the many terms that are translated to "G-d" they are Elohim (Hebrew) and Theos (Greek) which in lamemans terms means instrument of divine authority and judgement / messenger of G-D. Its a common stumbling block for simple minds of all Judaism, Christianity and islam not to be able to seperate Spirit from flesh when it comes to RECOGNIZING messiah. Christ himself asked his disciples who do men say that i am.. thay started listing prophets then he said but who do YOU say that I Am. They said the Messiah (son of G-d meaning one who carries the name and character of G-D) and his responce was this is not carnal (based in the physical) knowledge but it revealed to you by my Father. ZWe are told throught the bible that G-d is Spirit and Not man in Many ways. Christ said he came not to do his own will (that of his flesh) but that rather the will of G-d. THAT will is divine and is the essence of Elohim (Theos). Christ said of my self I can do Nothing. He said he that believeth upon me believeth not in me but he who sent me and he who seeth me seeth not me but he who sent me... he went on to make it clear he was speaking about observing his fruits NOt his physical body (flesh/ image)and again his fruits were that of the will of G-d. He said my fruits testify of me)Christ is the ONLy ONE to Alway submit to the will of G-d. It is said in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with G-D and the Word was G-d Jn 1:1 then it goes on to say Jn1:14 that The Word was "made" flesh. If you simpley look at the greek word for made you see it means to come to pass and rendared as such 82 times in the kjv. That is the context of "made" so why did G-d use (need) flesh for his Word to come to pass? Its called atonement of the blood which ws fulfilled in Yeshua and was the reason he came in the flesh (heb.2:14) and thus you see how all scripture agress. Yeshua is also called Emmanuel which means G-D (divine authority) with us. How can this be? (stay Spiritual with me!) well messiah means annointed! Yeshua (the Hebrew name of "Jesus" means salvation OF Yah. Adon is Hebrew for Lord as IN the earth and in relation to creation but we know Hashem himself isnt limited to being within his own creation thus you have Gen.1:27 which mentions THE Man (1st and 2nd man) we are told the 2nd man is the Lord from Heaven (Messiah). Heb.1:1-4 makes it clear that there is ONE "person" (not 3) to the Godhead and the word translated to "person" is essence Thus to claim 3 would be to say G-d has split personality and or is three seperate beings/ That is blasphemy). You also have Is.9:6 which speaks of Messiah and it says there (which many people fail to understand) that his SHEM- name/CHARACTER is called Everlasting Father which again simpley means He comes in the CHARACTER OF Hashem To do HIS WILL. Christ is Elohim (divine judgement) *IN* the flesh Col.2:9! Sadly carnal minds think of "Jesus" and only consider a physical man Not his Spiritual Postion of authority (anointing). Thus they struggle to make sense of scripture and resort to adding new terminology such as Trinity which isnt biblical and or 3 persons to G-d which is polythieism. No can say Christ is Lord cept by the Spirit.

Streets of Torah

Streets of Torah

How many know that YHWH does not say or do anything by accident? …that everything in His Word

has meaning? …Even colors.

First, some physics…

White light consists of all colors. When white light hits an object it interacts with the electrons of that

object…and its vibrations project or reflect light outward, and also absorb light.

So, some colors are absorbed by the object, and some colors are reflected outwardly.

The color reflected OUTWARDLY, is the color that we then SEE or PERCEIVE.

Let’s go to the Word of God.

In Numbers 15:38-39 we find that we are to wear a strand of blue to remind us to keep God’s

commandments, to do them.

Blue= Do God’s Commandment’s

Numbers 15:38-39

follow after your own heart and your own eyes, which you are inclined to whore after. (ESV)

So symbolically blue is associated with the remembering, or act of doing, the law of God, the Torah, to

do them.

Gold = Loving God’s Commandments

In Psalm 19 and Psalm 119 we find that gold is associated with GOD’S COMMANDMENTS.

Psalm 19:10

More to be desired are they than gold, even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and drippings

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Psalm 119:72

The law of your mouth is better to me than thousands of gold and silver pieces.(ESV)

Psalm 119:127

Therefore I love your commandments above gold, above fine gold.(ESV)

Likewise, in Revelation 3:18, we are counseled TO BUY GOLD FROM YHWH that has been refined in

the fire.

Revelation 3:18

I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so

that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to

anoint your eyes, so that you may see. (ESV)

In Revelation 21:21 we find that in the end, we will WALK ON STREETS OF GOLD.

Revelation 21:21

And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made of a single pearl, and the street of

the city was pure gold, like transparent glass.(ESV)

Is this speaking in only a literal sense? Or does this mean something? What would be the significance of

walking on streets of gold? Hang with us for a moment, because this is where it starts to become

interesting.

GOLD, or the color yellow, is often referred to as “negative blue light.” Gold REFLECTS ALL

COLORS with the exception of BLUE. It absorbs or retains blue.

Gold keeps all blue inside of itself. Gold does not reflect any blue wavelength.

So, let’s apply what physics and science knows, along with the symbolism of these colors in Scripture.

If GOLD RETAINS BLUE, or keeps all of the blue inside of itself, and blue stands for the remembering

or doing of God’s commandments then Yahweh requesting us to be like gold refined in the fire is to

have the rememberance of the Torah inside of us. Or, to put another way, to have the Law of God

written on our heart. This should sound rather familiar.

Jeremiah 31:33

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the

Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and

they shall be my people.

Putting the Law within us, or the writing of the Law on our heart, is the rememberance of the Law inside

of us. Symbolically it is the blue, the rememberance of the Torah, that stays in us, thus we become like

gold refined in the fire.

To Learn the commandments

To Hear them

To Have them in our heart.

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So Gold is the Torah inside of us, or the HEARING of the Law of God. Blue reflects the color blue and

blue and absorbs gold, the yellow light. Andblue is the OBEY and DO of the Law of God. So, yellow

is to HEAR the Law of God and blue is the DOING of the Law of God. To hear and obey is known as

the SHEMA in Hebrew which is found in Deuteronomy chapter 6.

Deuteronomy 6:4-9

4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. 5 You shall love the LORD your God

with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. 6 And these words that I

command you today shall be on your heart. 7 You shall teach them diligently to your children, and

shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie

down, and when you rise. 8 You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as

frontlets between your eyes. 9 You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your

gates.(ESV)

So it is important to become like GOLD meaning to write the Law of God on our heart, and likewise, it

is also important to be like BLUE outwardly like tzitzits and reflect the same Law of God outwardly to

others by DOING the Law of God. Thus both colors, yellow and blue, play a critical, symbolic role in

helping us understand the purpose of the Law of God. One part of the Law of God is transform us

inwardly, the GOLD, and the other is to reflect the Law of God to others as an example for others to see,

as BLUE.

If GOLD IS THE RETAINING OF THE LAW OF GOD INSIDE OF US and BLUE IS THE DOING

OF THE LAW OF GOD OUTWARDLY…Guess what happens when we mix BOTH BLUE AND

YELLOW light frequencies together…together they become PERFECT, BRILLIANT WHITE LIGHT.

The SHEMA, or “TO HEAR AND OBEY”, IS THE PERFECT WHITE WAY OF OUR CREATOR. It

is His righteousness that we become, inside and out. And now you know why white light is used so

often, in the Bible, to illustrate this perfection. This is why in the context of telling us to buy gold from

Yahweh that He makes mention of clothing ourselves in WHITE garments.

Revelation 3:18

I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments

so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen…

The WHITE GARMENTS, from a physics perspective, is both GOLD and BLUE mixed together. If we

truly have the Law of God inwardly, as GOLD if you will, then we would naturally want to DO the Law

of God, as BLUE if you will. Making us become clothed in WHITE. Spiritually and symbolically

speaking, this is the HEARING and DOING of the Law of God.

This is why James said what he said in Chapter 1:22

James 1:22

But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. (ESV)

We are not to just be gold, INWARD, but also blue, OUTWARD…and in that, we are then clothed in

the WHITE garments of the Word of God so that we will not be found naked and ashamed.

So when Psalm 119 associates gold with the commandments of God, this should all make much more

sense.

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Not only is gold rare,beautiful, and precious, just like God’s commandments and His instructions

should be to all us, but it also retains all the wavelengths of blue, which is God’s commandments, His

Torah, to do them.

When Revelation 3:18 says to buy refined gold from YHWH, that means that we are to BUY HIS

COMMANDMENTS.

When Revelation 21:21 says that we will walk on STREETS OF GOLD for eternity in the New

Jerusalem that symbolically means that our hearts are permanently transformed to only have the Law of

God inside of us and no longer the law of Sin or the flesh nature. Our desire for eternity will be to

follow His Torah. The Streets Of Gold are symbolically the Streets Of Torah. We will be walking in

His Torah for all eternity.

And this is all realized through the wearing of the thread of blue in Numbers 15 detailing to us that the

color blue is the act of doing His commandments.

So, if you are believer, and you do not like all of God’s commandments now, the goal in the end is that

we will be walking them perfectly for eternity.

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Is your religion true?

How do you know your religion is true?
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Everyone is given a measure of faith (Rom.12:3) and your faith is your reality. Biblically, "Religion" is basically your faith put into action (faith without works is dead). We are told you shall know them by their fruits (good or bad) and that G-d perfers you be either hot or cold rather than lukewarm. Are your works pleasing to G-d, afterall that is why you were created (Rev.4:11).

Jas.1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

"Religion" in & of its self can be either good or bad. Mankind has come to demonise "religion" but in fact its MAN MADE "religion" that is the problem. Fact is your "religion" is simpley a Reflection of You (in your relationship with G-d). The Spirit is liked unto the wind throughout the Word. You cant see the wind yet you can see its effects (like we are to be known by our fruits). That which is unseen yet exsists and observed by its fruits (effects). Such things are Spirit(ual): Faith. Heb.11:1, Intelect, Humbleness, envy, depression, Love, hate,...

So how do you know your religion is true. Simpley cause its you (in your relationship with G-d) at any given time. Thats not to say that some peoples religion isnt in vainity (Jas.1:26) cause fact is thats is where some are. I personally dont look to agree with no man on all things all the time. (If that were the situtation one of us would be following the other). Nor do i exspect anyone else to always be in the same stage of their walk as I am in mine. Its when two or more agree In TRUTH that G-d is in the midst of them. Fellowship (in spirit and in truth) is a true blessing! All the members that make up the body of Christ know that comfort! (Christ is the good shepherd who is worthy to be followed.)

We are not to boast of our own actions. Its The Almighty 1 who is righteous and "good" (and his divine judgement/authority is seen in the works He does through His people). His Word is the truth, the light and the way. I am not "perfect" (good). The best a man can be is an instrument of G-d. A temple of the Holy Spirit. We all have need of G-d for it is only in him that we are complete. Its only by His Grace (righteousness) in connection with our faith that we can be justified

The Faith has always been about a (postive) ONGOING Relationship with G-D. "Now faith is the *substance of things *hoped for, the *evidence of things *not *seen." He has laid before us the ways of life/ vs. / death, Blessing /vs./ Curses, for we have all partaken of the knowledge of both Good/ &/ evil. So we need to put forth our hand and partake of the tree of LIFE to live eutnal. Life is in the blood and atonement is of the blood. The Life (blood) of Yeshua (Jesus) was sinless (fulfilled Torah) and that is the "tree of Life". A relationship takes two. How is yours with G-D? (That is your religion) Christ did his part! (blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD) question is are you doing your part in that you embrace G-d (put Him First/ Die of SELF) and reflect His righteousness in your actions. Those Born again are drawn unto good works. Your works cant save you but they do identify you weather you are in covenant or no. Going around claiming denominations, churches, theologys, and so on doesnt amount to a hill of beans.

Many shall say in that day Lord, Lord have we not........ and he shall say unto them depart from me ye works of iniquity i never knew you. But unto his he shall say "Good job true and faithful servant"!
So what road are we own?
How can you be useful to G-d today?

Peace to those who embrace it

Almah Virgin

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. There are those who like to state the simple fact that almah isn't the spacific Hebrew term for "virgin".
Is.7:14 Therefore the LORD Himself shall give you a sign; Behold a virgin (almah) shall concieve, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
The reason some people make this obvious point is to attempt to discredit Christianity. Sure "betulah" is the spacific Hebrew term for virgin, However almah in general context would be Exspected to be a virgin much like a (pure/ young) Lady of today (yesterday). This should be evident to those interested in (and familure with) the Hebrew term.
Almah- a lass: (as veiled or private) - translated: damsel, maid, virgin
Its the femine of elem and its root is alma.
Alma - hide, veil, kept out of sight.
So which sounds more like a almah?
A female that gets around and is liberated sexually? /or/
A reserved lady who in most cases would be a virgin?
"Virgin" is A correct English translation of almah in Is.7:14! Reason being is cause the term virgin in the English doesn't only mean one untouched sexually. Example: Virgin is used to describe one who hasn't been seduced spiritually as well. The context of almah would be used to describe a innocent lady (undefiled, unbeguiled,...), afterall Mary's physical virginity wouldn't have been the only thing YHVH would have been interested in when it comes to the Mother of Jesus.
So while such critics don't have any reguard for the context of the Gospels (Matt.1:20,23/ Jn 1:14/ Lk.1:35/ Matt.3:17) they also seek to put almah into their own context, quick to claim what one isn't yet never really telling you what one is.
Lets look at other areas where almah is used:

Gen.24:43 Rebekah was called an almah before meeting Isaac!^

Ex.2:8 Sister of Moses (Marium) called almah when Moses was drawn from the water as a baby.
Would you naturally exspect these to be (phy) virgins at this time? YES

Many may ask: How does a virgin concieve and bare a child? By devine intervention! (son of God). This was not the first Super natural child birth in the Word. Sarah was over natural childbearing age when she recieved the news that she would bear a child. Her responce was laughter which is what Isaac means.
Other such births include: Isaac, Jacob (Esau), Joseph, Samson, Samuel, John the baptist of which the mothers were barron. Mary was the only virgin birth
Ps.2:7 also describes the king of Yisrael as a begotten son of God.
More on Yeshua (Jesus) being begotten son of God found HERE (Lions Den Group)


Is.7:14 is a double prophacy that directly relates to the son of Isiah being a sign of G-d's favor (Immanuel) in a time when the king was rebellious. Is.7:14 doesnt mention a physical virgin it uses the term almah again cause it relates to both son of Isiah and is a FORESHADOW of messiah who also is a sign of G-d's presence and favor (Emmanuel). Thus the reason the Tanakh doesnt spacifically mention a physical virgin and its not until we get to the NT (Matt.1:18,25/ Lk.1:334-35) that we learn this detail that Mary was a physical virgin. As far as Matt 1:23 goes Shem Tov's uses the term almah (for those who give wieght to that source) However almah never says it Cant be a physical virgin its just not the Hebrew word for virgin. (the Greek texts uses a word in vs.23 that does say virgin and flows with the fore mentioned verses as well as Shem Tov's texts does!). Its not dependant that Matt 1:23 say physical virgin (Those who embrace Shem Tov's Hebrew Matt have no literal contradiction and those who embrace the Greek must acknowledge its not a direct quote from Tanach)..

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Taken or left ?

Job.38:13
That it might take hold of the "ends" of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? / Job38/....... .38: As for the "ends"/"corners" (*Job.38:13) of the earth.. Understanding of Hebrew idoms and Jewish symbology acknow...ledges that corners represent completeness and Torah which is why you put tzitzits on the corners of the garment (vs.14). Its related to Foundations (vs.4), The foundation being Torah (thats what our fruits should reflect). The wicked shall be seperated from the foundation (the Rock)of creation (Job.38:13). Biblically we relate the sphere of the world to the directions that round it! That is why you see mention of the four winds (Rev.7:1,3/ Mk.13:27/ Matt.24:31).

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Rev.7:1,3 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Matt.24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mk.13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven

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In the NT it says the four winds (north south east and west/Example Zech.2:6)/ The End/ are (is) held back until the elect are sealed So that it will the the wicked that are taken out of the way which is what Job.38:13 is pointing to in the Tanakh/ btw breath and wind relate to spirit and its the spirits that will be judged (sealed) so if you understand you will see how all this relatesSee More

Is.40:22* "It is he that sitteth upon the circle (Hebrew#2329- 'Chug') of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"...... The Word used here does NOT mean flat at all rather it (chug) means: Circuit, vault i.e. as far as one can see around or above (ROUND/ Sphere)/ (aslo see Job.22:14/ Pro.8:27)..... Only in modern science has man (Nasa) been able to physically document that the universe is expanding however we can see mention of it here as well as mention that the earth is round which history claims that many once thought it was flat. Science (man) continues to play catch up with the Word. (science being mans best attempt to physically documents the ways of Physical creation.) Anyone interested in truth questions anything (weather it be in relation to science or Faith). The Word even says Study to show thyself approved and NOT to trust in man or lean unto thy own understanding. The Word goes on to say that Faith itself requires "EVIDENCE". Heb.11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Carnal knowledge simpley doesnt compare to Spiritual understanding. we are told least ye are born again (spiritual eyes and ears) you can not see (comprehend) the kingdom (SPIRITUAL truths) / "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene....No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life." --Albert Einstein// Proverbs.9:10 "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding"

Zech.14:5 (day of the LORD vs.1) "And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee" (Matt.24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains) ... - to "Azal": To the height of the mountaintops that are from either side. So did Menahem classify this (Machbereth p. 32), with (Isa. 41:9) “and from its nobles I called you.” Its meaning is an expression of height. -Rashi / Is.41:9 Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away./ Bullinger- (Zech.14:5 "the mountatins"= My Mountains. So called because of the physicalchange which HE will yet bring about, in the twonew mounts formed out of One. Azal- a new place, yet to have this name, at one extemity of the valley. Azal (atsel)- From H680; noble; Atsel, the name of an Israelite, and of a place in Palestine: - Azal, Azel. From atsal- A primitive root; properly to join; used only as a denominative from H681; to *separate; hence to *select, refuse, contract: - *keep, *reserve, straiten, *take.
Matt 24:36-44
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Lk.17:32-37 (as in days on Noah vs.26-27 and days of Sodom/Lot vs 28-29)
Remember Lot's wife. Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Feel free to discuss. A few points of interest to discuss could be:

* Who is taken?
"taken" Greek # 3880 to receive near, that is, associate with oneself (in any familiar or intimate act or relation); by analogy to assume an office; figuratively to learn: - receive, take (unto, with).
* Who is left?
("left" Greek # 863
(to send; an intensive form of to send forth, in various applications: - cry, forgive, forsake, lay aside, leave, let (alone, be, go, have), omit, put (send) away, remit, suffer, yield up.)
* Who is the Thief?
(may want to consider 1 Thess 5:2-4/ 2 Pet.3:10)
* Which one is Blessed? (the one "taken" or the one "left")
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Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Matt.13:30

Job.38:13 That it might take hold of the "ends" of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? / Job38/....... .38: As for the "ends"/"corners" (*Job.38:13) of the earth.. Understanding of Hebrew idoms and Jewish symbology acknow...ledges that corners represent completeness and Torah which is why you put tzitzits on the corners of the garment (vs.14). Its related to Foundations (vs.4), The foundation being Torah (thats what our fruits should reflect). The wicked shall be seperated from the foundation (the Rock)of creation (Job.38:13). Biblically we relate the sphere of the world to the directions that round it! That is why you see mention of the four winds (Rev.7:1,3/ Mk.13:27/ Matt.24:31).
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Rev.7:1,3 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Matt.24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Mk.13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven
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In the NT it says the four winds (north south east and west/Example Zech.2:6)/ The End/ are (is) held back until the elect are sealed So that it will the the wicked that are taken out of the way which is what Job.38:13 is pointing to in the Tanakh/ btw breath and wind relate to spirit and its the spirits that will be judged (sealed) so if you understand you will see how all this relatesSee More

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Is.40:22* "It is he that sitteth upon the circle (Hebrew#2329- 'Chug') of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"...... The Word used here does NOT mean flat at all rather it (chug) means: Circuit, vault i.e. as far as one can see around or above (ROUND/ Sphere)/ (aslo see Job.22:14/ Pro.8:27)..... Only in modern science has man (Nasa) been able to physically document that the universe is expanding however we can see mention of it here as well as mention that the earth is round which history claims that many once thought it was flat. Science (man) continues to play catch up with the Word. (science being mans best attempt to physically documents the ways of Physical creation.) Anyone interested in truth questions anything (weather it be in relation to science or Faith). The Word even says Study to show thyself approved and NOT to trust in man or lean unto thy own understanding. The Word goes on to say that Faith itself requires "EVIDENCE". Heb.11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Carnal knowledge simpley doesnt compare to Spiritual understanding. we are told least ye are born again (spiritual eyes and ears) you can not see (comprehend) the kingdom (SPIRITUAL truths) / "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene....No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life." --Albert Einstein// Proverbs.9:10 "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding"

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Zech.14:5 (day of the LORD vs.1) "And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee" (Matt.24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains) ... - to "Azal": To the height of the mountaintops that are from either side. So did Menahem classify this (Machbereth p. 32), with (Isa. 41:9) “and from its nobles I called you.” Its meaning is an expression of height. -Rashi / Is.41:9 Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away./ Bullinger- (Zech.14:5 "the mountatins"= My Mountains. So called because of the physicalchange which HE will yet bring about, in the twonew mounts formed out of One. Azal- a new place, yet to have this name, at one extemity of the valley. Azal (atsel)- From H680; noble; Atsel, the name of an Israelite, and of a place in Palestine: - Azal, Azel. From atsal- A primitive root; properly to join; used only as a denominative from H681; to *separate; hence to *select, refuse, contract: - *keep, *reserve, straiten, *take. (Matt.24:36-44)

 

The Great Tribulation (apostacy) of the antichrist is differ and prior to the coming judgement of God (1st and 2nd resurrections/ 1st& 2nd death). To those not in covenant at his coming he shall come to them as a thief in the night with Wrath. To his people in covenant he shall not bring wrath upon. The seperation of the tares and wheat happen at hravest (when All are changed).
2 THess.1:7-8 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: (Note tribulation mentioned in vs 6)
(Lk.21:34-36 (note trib mentioned in prior verses)/ Rom.8:35-39/ Jn.17:14-19/(Lk.12:4-5)

1 Thess.5:2-6/ Rev.22:7/ 2 Pet.3:10